Workflows - Photography Podcast

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Ashley Jean: [00:00:00] Really, I don't know. It doesn't scare me. I, I don't know if it's in my blood or what, but I get pumped up by that.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Workflows is a podcast about saving you time and money in your photography business as a photographer and content Creator who struggles with dyslexia, colorblindness, introversion, and anxiety stemming from years of being bullied as a.

Workflows have been my rock. I have workflows for every aspect of my life, and that's why I am so happy to bring you workflows, a podcast Presented by Imagen as a company dedicated to saving you time and money in your photography business, it makes sense to enhance and expand the conversation to all things workflow.

Tune in and subscribe to hear stories, strategies, and tools that could be your rock. Hear from people just like you. Put the camera down for little, connect the headphones and get to work with workflows. Get in on the conversation by joining the Imagen Community today. Imagen the possibilities.[00:01:00]

Ashley Jean is a self-taught, traveling professional photographer and public speaker based in Northern Virginia. Ashley earned her Bachelor of Science degree in rehabilitation Science from George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia in 2018. The plan was to begin her doctor of physical therapy school the following year.

However, her plans changed quickly after she was in high demand for photography services. Upon graduating in 2020, she made the ultimate decision to pursue photography full-time. Ashley first discovered her passion for photography when her mother gifted her with a camera for Christmas. Since then, she has been capturing photos of brands, couples, families, events, and more.

It brings her absolute delight to experience people's true personalities and authentic emotions while capturing their. Her ultimate dream is to inspire and mentor others on what she has learned throughout her journey in entrepreneurship and to travel the world, bringing joy [00:02:00] to others in the form of photography.

Without further ado, here's my conversation with Ashley Jean. Hello, Ashley. How's it going? Good. How are you? I'm doing really well. It's Friday, it's my daughter's eighth birthday and Wow. Yeah. So we're gonna a good birthday for she . Thank you. She actually asked to go to Panera Bread for her birthday dinner of all the places that she could pick.

You know, the funny thing is I taught her that like dipping bread in chicken soup is delicious. So now that's her favorite thing to do. And so she wants to go and get a bread bowl and just like two birds, one stone, it's all together. . I

Ashley Jean: love it. I love it. . Nice and simple.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Yeah, nice and simple. Yeah. so, we're gonna dive into this because we've got.

What is one thing that you do for the photographic process that has saved you time?
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Scott Wyden Kivowitz: This is gonna be a fun conversation. I'm gonna [00:03:00] ask you the same question, , that I ask every guest in the beginning. That is, what is one thing that you do for your photographic process that has saved you time? The, the, the part behind the camera that has saved you time?

Ashley Jean: I would say my workflows, so ImagenAI has played a tremend.

Part in my post, production workflow. well let,

let's

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: start, let's start before we even get to the post-production, cause we're gonna get to that too. Uhhuh . Let's talk about like literally behind the camera. You've got the camera in your hand. You're, you're, you're, you know, you're photographing your clients.

What do you do at that point? That is, that saves you time? I like to

Ashley Jean: shoot everything in camera. Mm-hmm. so that it saves me a lot of time in the post reduction process. I make. , I typically would say I underexposed so that if I need to go back and overexpose later I can. Whereas if I were to overexpose, it'd be a lot harder to kind of fix things in the end.

But, that's kind of what has saved me a lot. I'm a very natural editor, [00:04:00] so it saves me a lot of time in the back end when I just get everything right in Canberra. So

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: I. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, re recovering highlights is obviously way more difficult than recovering shadows. So, yeah,

What is one thing that you do for the business that saves you time or money?
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Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Yeah, so Underexposing in my opinion, is definitely the way to go as well. so it's a good, that's a good choice, . Yeah. yeah. So, so then moving into the business side of things now, what is one thing you do for your business? again, Not editing. We're gonna get to editing, soon. But what is one thing you do for your business that saves you time or money?

or, or things

Ashley Jean: like that? So what I like to do with my clients, before we even get out onto the field to take pictures, I like to meet with every one of them individually. I do something called a creative strategy call, where before we even meet for that, I have them send me, Pinterest smooth board. I kind of wanna see what type of photos they're attracted to.

Nice. and then that way I'm also able to ask them questions about why were they [00:05:00] attracted to that, maybe what their vision is for their shoot. And if they don't have a vision, that's what I'm here for. I'm able to kind of help them with that. we go over props, we go over, locations that fit the vibe that they're going for, outfits so that when we show up to the shoot, everybody.

okay. This is exactly what's going down. This is exactly what you can expect. and that saves a lot of time because, when I first started out in undergrad, when I didn't really have the grasp of running a photography business, , I would just, have people meet me at a location and we would kind of discuss everything there.

And of course that would take about, you know, probably a good 15 minutes deciding, okay, this outfit is gonna be shot here, this outfit's gonna be shot here. These are the poses we're gonna be focusing on. So as I continued throughout my photography journey, I figured that having these creative strategy calls with them, was a perfect solution to the issues that I was facing with people coming to photo shoots unprepared.

And then also just on the other end, me being prepared to shoot them. So, [00:06:00] that's like a really important part of my process to save me, some time and also just to get to learn my clients on a more

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: personal level. . Yeah. it's a, your answer was very similar to one. and it came in a very different way, of course, but like, but similar to what Mike Morby said in a previous episode as well, where, he said client expectations, you know, he sets that ahead of time.

yes, that is the cornerstone of his business from start to finish. so I, I, I definitely think that's a, a great approach. I, so I've got a question though about your mood. So you use Pinterest, right? As you said, I love it. Mm-hmm. , have you ever used a whiteboard type system for the mood board so that you can work collabora collaboratively with your clients in real time, even if needed?

where, like Google, for example, in the Google Drive ecosystem, they have Jamboard, right? Mm-hmm. , where it's just a virtual whiteboard you can drop in pictures and colors and all that stuff. okay. Apple just came out with their own version in the latest Mac OS and iOS [00:07:00] called Freeform. Freeform, I think it's called.

I'm just gonna check real quick. Yes, freeform. And it basically works the same exact way. And it just like, in Apple's beauty, you just like share the freeform link or you know, your freeform board or whatever you want to call it with your client. Then it's real time. But, so like there's two options that for what, you know, if the, if your client's in Google or the Apple eco ecosystem, you've got a virtual whiteboard, you can literally do that with outside of Pinterest, which is pretty cool cause it unlocks a whole bunch.

things. have you ever considered something like that?

Ashley Jean: I haven't. I would say the closest thing I've, used that might be similar to that, it's called milli. and it's, it's a system where you can collaborate, but I don't know if it is, live, just like you mentioned with Google or Apple. So I'm definitely gonna be checking that out cause I really actually like that, feature.

I think that's really cool.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Yeah. Yeah. I freeform, I, I've been having a lot of fun with, lately with it's [00:08:00] brand new, like, literally in the past two weeks. wow. We're recording this in January, but, , so like beginning of January is when, is, when is when, that came out. So that's brand new, but Jam board's been around for forever.

so Jamboard does something pretty cool, for mm-hmm. for educators is, is like, Google has a digital whiteboard. Product that people mm-hmm. that schools can buy. And if the students are on the jam board, they can have it right. Go up, right on the digital whiteboard screen on the screen. It's pretty cool.

What is one thing that you do for editing that has saved you time?
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Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Completely unrelated, but it's so cool. no, I'm gonna check it out. I'm gonna check it out. . okay, so, we talked about the photographic process. We talked about the business. What is one thing, now, again, not Imagen, what is the one thing that you do for your editing? that has saved you time.

Ashley Jean: I have certain presets that I've made for myself that I use in Lightroom.

Mm-hmm. . I also would say I typically use the same settings all around just because I do shoot a certain way. so I kind of have like my go-tos. and the presets definitely helped me. I've created the presets. where I kind of [00:09:00] just like, I, I noticed I was doing the same and it's over and over. , you know, certain exposures, certain saturation.

Mm-hmm. . So I just created certain presets that I can at least use as a, a bass and then I go from there. so that's definitely helped out tremendously, especially for event photography. I usually deliver all the photos from events, so when I have to go back and edit it definitely helps having that preset there.

Help with, my editing

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: process. Yeah. You know, so pre, pre, Imagen when I was doing a hundred percent of the editing in Lightroom, I, you know mm-hmm. as, as many other photographers have found, Lightroom can be slow if you put on certain settings, right? Yes. So the more local adjustments you do, the slower it gets.

even putting on lens calibration, right? Slows down Lightroom develop module. So one of the presets that I created, In the same way to, to save me time later on, which, or in the editing process overall is I don't edit with lens correction [00:10:00] on. I then, add a preset that just applies lens correction and I use the paint thing and auto sync it or whatever across the board and now lens correction is on.

And then I can go back and like make sure that everything else is good. Cause once you add lens correction, everything changes a little bit. So. That's something that I've always done now with ImagenAI, don't do that anymore. So that's nice. But and then Yeah, exactly. . but, uh, yeah, that's great. You know, you know, having, having presets for different things,even, even now,even with, Imagen there's still certain presets that, or that you could create that could, do some final things for your mm-hmm.

What is one thing that you do after a session that has increased business?
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Scott Wyden Kivowitz: you know, for your, for your work, especially with the. AI tools that are now built into Lightroom two. You can make some cool presets for that too, so, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. Awesome. Yeah. okay. So what is now one thing you do after a session? The session's all done. You've, you've, you've, you've called it, you've, you've edited the photos, you're.

About to deliver, or maybe this is part of the [00:11:00] delivery process, but it's one thing you do after the session that saves you time. yeah. Or, or even increased business. Anything that has, saved you time or increased business or just enhanced your workflow in general. I think

Ashley Jean: organization is a really big thing for me.

hundred percent. So yeah, , just making sure that. everything is when I export my files from the Lightroom. the first thing I like to do is put everything on two hard drives that I have and then also into a cloud-based system. okay. So that way, in case a client says, Hey, can you fix this for me?

Or Can you re-edit this? I have it there. So, yeah, I would say, this is more of like me just thinking ahead. , just making sure that I'm organized on the back end before anything even goes out. and then before I even, deliver the gallery to my clients, I always, I'm very personable. I like getting to know my clients on that personal level.

So I always write, everybody kind of like a little [00:12:00] note before I deliver their gallery. I use Pixie set to deliver it and, I would say, , that's definitely how people have noticed that little touch, just saying like, Hey, like I really enjoyed, you know, shooting with you. And I may remember like little things that happened during the shoot that I put in there.

So that's definitely helped with business. But I would say overall the organization aspect, just making sure that everything's organized on the back end and my hard drives, has helped a lot because what I've also noticed is that, some from the people that I mentor, Some people just don't know how to organize their files, and then when it goes back to trying to look for something, it's hard to find them.

So I have a system that I use to kind of help me stay organized in that aspect, and that definitely saves a lot of time. in the future. .

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: So let, so let me ask you, because I'm definitely an organized person. Mm-hmm. , I, I'm right there with you. And if I see a lightened catalog that is not organized, it drives me bonkers.

So yeah. , are you a one catalog per [00:13:00] client per month, per quarter, per year or are you a one giant catalog person?

Ashley Jean: the first .

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: So one per one per.

Ashley Jean: Yeah, I like to organize by, basically by months, just cuz it's by easier for me. Yeah. Months and then year in the year in the overall picture, it's easier for me to go back and, find stuff that way.

Sure,

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: sure. and now are you a folder or a collection person?

Ashley Jean: I am.

Collection. I kind of mix it up. Not gonna lie. Mix it up.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Okay. Yeah. All right, . That's cool. That's cool. yeah, I, so I am, for on my end, I am a, I don't know why, but I think it's just the sanity of having, for me, just like one catalog. So I just have one giant catalog forever. Um mm-hmm. , I've, I've tried to split it up and then I keep going back to the one, but, but I am a, I am a, keep my folders organized by, Certain, year, month, day type of structure.

But then, I use [00:14:00] collections heavily and collection sets. Mm-hmm. so I can always find my client work and stuff as needed, one way or another. So, cool. Okay. we're gonna do something fun. I started doing this not long ago and, yeah. Pick a color.

Green. This is a lot of fun. Favorite color of fun? . Which one? Which one? Green, , green. All. All? Mm-hmm. . All right. Okay. Okay. And what I like to say is you can't blame me if you get a question that is, . I'm going to shuffle through this deck and you are going to tell me when to stop, and whatever I stop on is the question that you are about to answer.

Are you ready? Got it? Yep. . Okay. Tell me, tell me when to.

Stop . Wow, you got pretty close to the end. Okay. , what are most people afraid of that does not scare you?

Ashley Jean: Does [00:15:00] not scare me.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: I'm afraid of snakes, by the way. Snakes? Yeah. I don't like snakes either. ,

Ashley Jean: I would say. That does not scare me.

That's a really great question cuz I'm a, I'm afraid of certain things that I know other people are afraid of. . I would say that's a really great question. Oh my gosh, ,

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: let's see. Like if you were near like a tiger and people are running from the tiger, would you be scared out of your mind and run from the tiger?

Ashley Jean: I probably would. If I see other people running, I'm probably gonna run

I would say, I think this is like super random, but Okay. Alright. Playing the piano in front of a crowd. There might be, you know, some people that they're probably, I don't know, it doesn't scare me. I, I don't know if [00:16:00] it's in my blood or what. , I get pumped up by that. I grew up playing the piano since I was two.

and my parents got me started at a really young age, and I just really enjoy getting in front of people and playing the piano. And granted, I haven't done that in a while, but yeah, .

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: So I grew up, being forced to play clarinet and forced to play . I, I actually got into Berkeley College of Music for playing clarinet.

and I was, I was very good, but I absolutely hated it cuz I was forced to do it. Oh yeah. Yeah. I always, and I've, I've played a lot of instruments, including piano very lightly. But, I've always said that like, if I could go back mm-hmm. and I got to choose again, or had the option to choose, I would've picked piano because it's that type of instrument where you could just go wherever.

And if you see a piano, it's just like, I can play this and everybody wants to sing along and dance along to it. And it's just a, you know, it's, whereas like a guitar is, is very similar, but at a [00:17:00] guitar you don't typically just see it out. Like a piano is, so, yeah. Yeah, I like that answer. I like that answer a lot.

Can you share an outlined breakdown of your workflow from lead to delivery?
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Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Thank you. Thank you. All right. If you are enjoying this episode, please take a moment to leave us a review at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Pod Chaser. We truly appreciate it. Now, this question I'm gonna ask you is pretty deep. I want you to look at your business from a 30,000 foot view down. Can you share an outline break?

Of your workflow from lead to delivery?

Ashley Jean: Yes. So I will go through my branding process because I am, I'm currently rebranding to focus on working with, personal branding clients. So I really wanna help businesses with, increasing their visibility online, on social media. So if a lead reaches out to me through, my website, they'll reach out through d.

So they'll complete that form through dip, which [00:18:00] includes, the date that they wanna shoot, which has to be about four to six weeks out from the actual date they choose for their session. I also ask them questions about how long they've been in business. I only work with certain types of businesses, so service and product based businesses.

I also like to ask. if they're ready to make the investment of where my prices start at, because nobody's time wants to be wasted. I don't want to get on the phone with somebody or have them get on the phone with me and I save my pricing, and they're like, oh, I, I didn't know that. That's what my pricing, your pricing was.

So just to save people time, I always ask a question on my form, just asking, are you ready to make the investment? I always like to also ask, what's the number one thing that they're struggling with in business right now? The number one, answer that I always get is that, people are really struggling with creating content for social media.

People don't know what to post. they're having trouble maybe connecting with their audience. And that's something that just also comes [00:19:00] naturally to me. I can just look at your business and say, okay, this is what you need to do. This is the type of content we're gonna capture. You know, this is, this is the plan that we're gonna, do for your business.

once they fill out that form. on the back end, my virtual assistant and I, we review everything and once we figure out that it's a match, we invite them to schedule a discovery call. And that's typically 30 minutes. If it's not a match, we'll either, give them a option to schedule a different type of session with us.

maybe like something that's on, like a lower tiered. or we'll recommend them to another photographer, that may be able to fit their needs a little better. I'm all about community, so referring people is like super huge to me. If I know that I can't do it, I will definitely pass it along to my photography buddies.

but once somebody, gets on that discovery call with me, this is where I like to get to know a little bit more about them. So why they started their business. [00:20:00] we talk about the struggles that they're. , I tell them about my process and what they can expect with me. and then this is where we go over pricing.

And then once they decide if they wanna move forward, let's say yes. So I would send them a proposal, which includes the, of course the contract and the invoice. And then this is where the fun parts starts, . So we, after all that is signed, , I send over an onboarding, welcome email. So I created a special welcome guide through Canva that kind of maps out, everything throughout the process, their homework.

And that homework is, having them fill out a brand, a vision discovery form. So this is where I get really deep with my clients, just really learning like everything that it is about, not only them, but of course their businesses as well. , your who you are kind of shapes how your business is as well.

And especially if you're a personal brand, you wanna kind of tie those two together in a way. And, for people who are [00:21:00] trying to grow and engage on social media, it's really important, you know, to show up, for your audience. And just like knowing who you're marketing to your ideal client, you know, the social media platforms that they're on, we get into the nitty gritty of all of.

And then of course I have them create that Pinterest board, where they put photos that they're attracted to in there. And then I review everything. And then this is where we get on that creative strategy call for about 30 to 60 minutes. and this is where I really get to meet my clients, like one-on-one.

Virtually. We do it over Zoom. so it's really just very comfortable. You have people who come in like dressed up, you know, they turn on their cameras sometimes, and there are other people who. really dressed down. And what I like about that is that they're, they're already comfortable with me on Zoom and I'm like, you know, don't even, you don't have to turn your camera on, but it's always nice to, but they can just come as they are and, you know, judgment free zone.

This is where we really get deep to talking about everything. [00:22:00] And there are some people that I've shared some really deep things with me, that has helped them. it kind of helps me with telling their story, visual. which is really fun. So it's always nice to, learn those things about my clients because then I'm able to kind of shape their photo shoot in a way that brings that out in a way that's comfortable for them.

and then of course we have the photo shoot. I always send some tips a few days prior to them so that they're prepared. I have a photography studio in Old Town, Alexandria, Virginia, so majority of my clients come and shoot there. It's. Very cozy. I love being able to give my clients like an overall experience.

I'm very much a snack person, so I make sure I have snacks on deck. I have some drinks there. if we're doing a half day shoot, I like to get food catered, to this space. I typically have a team that I work with, so typically bring in the videographer, have an a. making sure that everything's taken care of.

sometimes if the client needs a stylist, a [00:23:00] stylist will be there. They get their hair and makeup done at the space. so it's really convenient for the client to just, they just come as they are, they show up and then I take care of the rest. Mm-hmm. . and then usually after the shoot is completed, I like.

another part of the personal aspect. I like writing a thank you note for all of my clients. So, if it's something that I learned about them, throughout the process leading up to this point, I'll write it in the card. And just also just saying thank you for choosing me to capture this, you know, this part of your journey for you, because it's definitely an honor I definitely don't take lightly for, you know, to capture people's, journeys and their businesses.

and then of course, , we get to the post production aspect. usually when I get home, stick that memory card in my computer and the first thing I do is, there's another AI system called after shoot. So I typically put it through there to call my photos, and then from there, that's when I take it into ImagenAI.

Once I, once the clients choose the photos that they want, I'll [00:24:00] go back and put the photos through. Imagen. Do the light touches and Lightroom, and then I'll typically deliver the gallery up to two to three weeks after, their selections are made. And then I have a whole off-boarding workflow where they're sent a goodbye guide that basically, you know, outlines like, Hey, the, the process is over.

You know, our time together has come to an. Just to make sure that we're closing out projects properly so people know like, okay, like I have everything that I need. I got my deliverables. and just also to say thank you again. And then the last part of the process is just checking in at least, 30 days and 60 days afterwards to see that, the photos that we provided them, the goals that they set when we have that greatest strategy call are being met.

So whether it's increasing their visibility online, Whether they were trying to reach a certain revenue goal or whether they were using the photos for a certain, project. Just making sure that those, goals were met. So [00:25:00] I know that was super lengthy , but that's kind of like the, the in-depth,

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: view of my process.

That's fantastic. Earlier in the beginning you said that, you, well actually wanna help them with their social media strategy beyond. Capturing the photos. Right. And I think that's, mm-hmm. really interesting because, and, and that's something that, that, I know like a lot of, a lot of personal brand photographers try to do, but not everybody, is successful at doing so.

I, I love the fact that you are taking your knowledge of. How to market on social media and your knowledge of business and you're learning about your client's businesses in order to help them determine and plan out what they will do. I feel like that's a huge value add to your business. which, which also means, you know, not not just a value ed, but also, you know, being able to say, we can do this, and I have got a videographer.

X amount more money for the videographer and so on and so on, like it's upsells and value ads type of thing. to be able [00:26:00] to, to help them actually have content to walk away with beyond just the. Assets you've created of stills. So that's a beautiful thing. your workflow is fantastic. thank, thank you.

You know? Yeah, yeah, definitely. you definitely are putting the personal and personal brand photography

What does the future of AI in photography look like to you?
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Scott Wyden Kivowitz: I think it's, it's great. It's great. Thank you. . We've now talked about a bunch of business related things, a bunch of, workflow related things. I'm wondering now on the AI side, what is the future of AI in photography look like to

Ashley Jean: you? I think it's gonna shape, the future of photography a lot because I'm already seeing it now on, social media.

not only do we have programs, are able to color our ImagenAI's for us now. Now we have those programs that are able to edit our photos now, and those of course go hand in hand. But now we also have programs where, let's say I'm [00:27:00] helping required with their social media and I give them their photos to post.

We have these pro, these AI programs now where you're able. Create captions just by putting in the topic such as like copy ai, you just put in the topic and it'll come up with a caption for you. Right? You just say what's going on in the photo and it'll generate, you know, that for you or even just for emails, newsletters, eBooks.

So I feel for the future of photography, it's gonna help a lot of, like emerging photographers for sure. Like mm-hmm. , there were certain things. people who started photography maybe a, a little earlier before the AI stuff came out that we had to go through. Yeah. Like a lot of growing pains, like, like the culling process used to be very tedious.

so now if you have somebody who's just getting started in their photography journey, they don't nec if they know about these programs, they don't necessarily have to go through the things that we had to go through and those growing pains we had to go through growing our businesses. So [00:28:00] I think it's gonna be take be a positive thing.

in the future, there are gonna be some downsides to it, of course. and I think the one downside that kind of crosses my mind is, you have people who do editing as a, as like a career, before like the AI stuff came out. But overall, I think. AI is gonna be an amazing thing for, the photography industry.

Yeah.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Two things that, to touch on, on that. One is, the, the humans, this has come up a couple times previously and, from what we've been seeing, the human editors are adapting, right? Mm-hmm. , so they're either using Imagen in their workflows mm-hmm. and then, for their clients, and then just basically offering additional retouch.

Or, a lot of them, like the smaller guys, and girls are , are adapting to the point where they're actually not doing the full edits as a service. Now they're just doing final workup. Like they're basically being the, I'm going to handle your AI workflow for you, and then I will do the final touches and this is my fee.

so, so [00:29:00] they're not necessarily losing their jobs or they're, you know, losing their businesses. They're just shifting. Right. Shifting, yeah. Adapting. The other thing is, about the, the calling aspect. So, Imagen as calling coming out, it's in beta. Mm-hmm. and, you know, so, culling and editing all in one app, seamless.

Fast and, it's, the future is really bright there and there's a lot of other areas that we, we plan to go with, with that whole system to make the post-production process even better and make photographers feel more secure and safe and not just use. AI for, it's not a, what we're doing is not a we're gonna do it for you.

It's a we're we're helping you in the process and still giving you the control, right? Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . And the final thing is, that you, something you mentioned, and that is captions, right? So I see on that exact topic, those already apps that you can drop in a photo and it'll recommend it based on the photo itself, not even just like the [00:30:00] keywords that you want to give it.

Mm-hmm. , I foresee. Meta basically adopting open AI or something like that into Instagram so that when you select it, you're welcome. It'll give you the option to prefill based on the photo that it sees how for free. That's, that's what I see happening in the future. which obviously would make. photographers in a whole bunch of other people's lives, so much easier than having to brainstorm Yes.

On their own. Right. So, absolutely . Yeah. Yeah. So, and, and it could be a, it could be a, we're going to examine your photo and give you a, a, a caption or could be give us a keyword and we will examine your, you know, photo and then we will do it based on that little bit of a prompt. So yeah. So much potential.

So much.

Ashley Jean: Yes. Yeah.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Major. yeah. So we have, I've tried to steer you away from Imagen for this entire episode, but now I wanna bring you back to Imagen, because you are an Imagen user. And so I know, I [00:31:00] wanna know, how did Imagen

How did Imagen impact your life?Marker
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Scott Wyden Kivowitz: impact your life? Oh, the whole.

Ashley Jean: Wow. Huh? It has impacted my life in the best way possible.

Not just over exaggerating, but It's just, it's saved me so much time. And I would say the perfect example of that is,my boyfriend and I, we would always have like date nights on Friday and Saturday nights. And if it's in the middle of busy season such as the holidays, I have so many galleries to edit.

And there were times when we first started dating where, I would just be just so caught up, just editing galleries. Sometimes we wouldn't even make it out to our date nights because I'm like, I need to finish this gallery. I need to, you know, get it out. You know, I'm trying to get it to my clients, you know, beforehand, or maybe I might have fallen behind on galleries cuz something happened.

So, when ImagenAI came into the picture and it's, I learned about it when I went to a, a conference, which was non photography related, but [00:32:00] I met a photographer there. he was telling me, Yeah, I deliver my galleries to my clients within 24 hours. And I said,

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: how the

what that would be my reaction too, originally .

Ashley Jean: Whoa, . Well that's amazing. And he said, I'm gonna show you how I did it. It's called ImagenAI. And he showed it to me and literally the first time that I used it, and I realized how it worked with the. The different profiles that you can use. Mm-hmm. , I was obsessed.

I'm pretty sure my jaw dropped just because, like I , I put a gallon in there that just had so many pictures and it was able to basically edit it for me in a, in a style that I liked. And then I just had to go in and just make minor. very minor touches and yeah, I went from delivering galleries within like two to three weeks to delivering them within a couple of [00:33:00] days, if I was really focused, I could get that gallery within 24 to 48 hours.

Yeah, and I remember there was a client I had, we had an event, and it's a company that I shoot with consistently. I typically had a turnaround time for them for, it was about five to seven days after I found out about Imagen. . I used it on the gallery for the event that I had previously captured for them, and I get a phone call from the owner and he goes, actually, I checked my email and the gallery's in there and I said, yeah, it's, it's finished.

And he said, that's the quickest you ever returned the gallery just. Do you have robots working for you back there or something? ? I said, no, . . I just switched up my workflow , and it was probably the most amazing thing because they were just so happy that I was able to deliver. by gallery to them, within literally [00:34:00] 48 hours of the event.

And I was, I didn't tell them that I was going to, so it was just such a nice surprise for them. And so, yeah, ImagenAI has just definitely had such a positive impact in my life, and I always tell people about it, because I think it's something that they should incorporate into their workflow.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Yeah.

You're, you're in a genre that, some clients. Want that more, more of that demand of faster turnaround than say like just a wedding where there's that expectation of it being a month or three months for a turnaround time. Right. So, yeah. so, so being able to, to help with that and then also being able to give you your date nights back.

that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah. It's,

Ashley Jean: it's great. Yeah, it's great. My boyfriend loves it. .

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Awesome. so, where can listeners learn more about you, connect with you and of course, see your incredible photography?

Ashley Jean: Yes. So, my website is snaps by ash.com, which is S N A P S B Y a s h.com. my Instagram is snaps by ash [00:35:00] with the unders.

I am rebranding, so my name is changing soon, but everything will redirect to the new page if you do end up following me, after my new website is launched. But I'm also launching my YouTube channel soon, so Oh, y I know, I'm so excited about that. so if you, follow my website or follow me on Instagram, there'll be more information on that there, because I can't put the name out yet just because we're finalizing some trademark stuff, but.

I'm really excited about that, with launching all of that. And feel free to sh uh,send me a DM if you follow me. I'm, you know, I don't bite. I love meeting new people, so I love connecting with people. So if you watch this episode, and wanna say hi, like, don't be afraid to.

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: Awesome. Thank you so much for, for hopping on, for chatting, for sharing such a detailed, you know, insights into your workflow and for, you know, allowing everybody to get to know you more.

I appreciate it. I know,[00:36:00] others listening also appreciate it. So thank you.

Ashley Jean: Thank you. Thank you for having me, Scott. I really

Scott Wyden Kivowitz: appreciate it. Thank you so much, Ashley, for that incredible conversation on all your things workflows. I know that everybody who listened to this episode is going to walk away with a bunch of fantastic takeaways.

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